{"id":5794,"date":"2011-02-16T07:43:50","date_gmt":"2011-02-16T13:43:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/?p=5794"},"modified":"2011-08-21T05:58:39","modified_gmt":"2011-08-21T11:58:39","slug":"how-do-you-compare-a-pils-to-an-imperial-stout","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/how-do-you-compare-a-pils-to-an-imperial-stout\/","title":{"rendered":"How do you compare a pils to an imperial stout?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.appellationbeer.com\/images\/20110216-ratings.jpg\" alt=\"Which 90-plus beer should I drink tonight?\" class=\"centered\"\/><\/p>\n<p>I have not so much <a href=\"http:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/how-to-pick-the-best-25-beers-in-the-world\/\">made peace<\/a> with &#8220;best&#8221; lists as run out of new ways to say why I don&#8217;t care for those that don&#8217;t provide sensible context. Thus when the latest lists from <em>Rate Beer<\/em> and <em>Beer Advocate<\/em> (in its print edition) arrived I sat silent. <\/p>\n<p>Sure, I was amused reading the conversations that followed Martyn Cornell&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/zythophile.wordpress.com\/2011\/01\/29\/why-extremophiles-are-a-danger-to-us-all\/\">&#8220;Why extremophiles are a danger to us all&#8221;<\/a> &#151; both the comments on his blog and posts (<a href=\"http:\/\/aleheads.com\/2011\/02\/08\/extremophiles\/\">such as this one<\/a>) it inspired &#151; but I didn&#8217;t have anything to add.<\/p>\n<p>However, by <a href=\"http:\/\/poetsandquants.com\/2011\/02\/11\/malcolm-gladwell-trashes-college-rankings\/\">taking a sledgehammer<\/a> to college rankings in the current <em>New Yorker<\/em> magazine Malcolm Gladwell provoked a thought.<\/p>\n<p>Gladwell begins his assault by examining the way <em>Car &#038; Driver<\/em> ranks automobiles, writing the magazine&#8217;s &#8220;ambition to grade every car in the world according to the same methodology would be fine if it limited itself to a single dimension.&#8221; And, &#8220;A heterogeneous ranking systems works fine if it focuses just on, say, how much fun as car is to drive.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Which leads to what the essay&#8217;s really about, rating colleges.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A ranking can be heterogeneous, in other words, as long as it doesn\u2019t try to be too comprehensive. And it can be comprehensive as long as it doesn&#8217;t try to measure things that are heterogeneous. But it&#8217;s an act of real audacity when a ranking system tries to be comprehensive <em>and<\/em> heterogeneous &#151; which is the first thing to keep in mind in any consideration of <em>U.S. News &#038; World Report\u2019s<\/em> annual \u201cBest Colleges\u201d guide.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is not to say that <em>Rate Beer<\/em> uses the same methodology to compile its lists as <em>U.S. News<\/em> does for colleges. But it does endeavor to be comprehensive <em>and<\/em> heterogeneous (even though the top of the list is dominated by homogeneous, i.e. imperial, beers).<\/p>\n<p>And therefore we are left with rankings that imply we might compare an imperial pumpkin beer to an elegant, well-balanced, low-alcohol cucumber beer. Could we would then use this as a guide when choosing a beer? Doesn&#8217;t work, does it? <\/p>\n<p>(In all fairness to the beer rating sites they also group beers &#8220;by style,&#8221; making some homogeneous comparisons possible.)<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, while I was reading Gladwell&#8217;s article &#151; which delves into the subjectivity involved in setting &#8220;objective&#8221; standards &#151; Pandora managed to feed me song after song that I didn&#8217;t feel the need to skip. It&#8217;s been a while since <em>The New York Times<\/em> explained how &#8220;The Music Genome Project\u201d works, but it&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2009\/10\/18\/magazine\/18Pandora-t.html\">still a fascinating story.<\/a> And one you may hear repeated in the coming months, because Pandora has filed for a $100 million IPO.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Some elements that these musicologists (who, really, are musicians with day jobs) codify are technical, like beats per minute, or the presence of parallel octaves or block chords. Someone taking apart Gnarls Barkley\u2019s \u201cCrazy\u201d documents the prevalence of harmony, chordal patterning, swung 16ths and the like. But their analysis goes beyond such objectively observable metrics. To what extent, on a scale of 1 to 5, does melody dominate the composition of \u201cHey Jude\u201d? How \u201cjoyful\u201d are the lyrics? How much does the music reflect a gospel influence? And how \u201cbusy\u201d is Stan Getz\u2019s solo in his recording of \u201cThese Foolish Things\u201d? How emotional? How \u201cmotion-inducing\u201d? On the continuum of accessible to avant-garde, where does this particular Getz recording fall?<\/p>\n<p>There are more questions for every voice, every instrument, every intrinsic element of the music. And there are always answers, specific numerical ones. It can take 20 minutes to amass the data for a single tune. This has been done for more than 700,000 songs, by 80,000 artists. \u201cThe Music Genome Project,\u201d as this undertaking is called, is the back end of Pandora. [<strong>Note:<\/strong> The article is from 2009 and those numbers have grown.]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Would it be possible to do something similar for beer? I&#8217;m guessing homogeneous would work better than heterogeneous &#151; there&#8217;s a reason that Frank Sinatra songs never show up on my Chris Knight station &#151; and finding volunteers for research would be easy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have not so much made peace with &#8220;best&#8221; lists as run out of new ways to say why I don&#8217;t care for those that don&#8217;t provide sensible context. Thus when the latest lists from Rate Beer and Beer Advocate (in its print edition) arrived I sat silent. Sure, I was amused reading the conversations &#8230; <a title=\"How do you compare a pils to an imperial stout?\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/how-do-you-compare-a-pils-to-an-imperial-stout\/\" aria-label=\"More on How do you compare a pils to an imperial stout?\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[292],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5794","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-musing"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4wTn-1vs","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5794","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5794"}],"version-history":[{"count":33,"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5794\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7347,"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5794\/revisions\/7347"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5794"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5794"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5794"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}