{"id":246,"date":"2007-06-26T10:45:02","date_gmt":"2007-06-26T17:45:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/theres-more-than-flavor-in-a-flavor-wheel\/"},"modified":"2012-11-01T12:48:39","modified_gmt":"2012-11-01T18:48:39","slug":"theres-more-than-flavor-in-a-flavor-wheel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/theres-more-than-flavor-in-a-flavor-wheel\/","title":{"rendered":"There&#8217;s more than flavor in a flavor wheel"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.appellationbeer.com\/images\/20070626-lauren.jpg\" alt=\"Lauren Salazar\" class=\"alignright\"\/>Before we get to the <em>Slate<\/em> three-part series on sensory perception and wine a few words of wit and wisdom on that topic from Lauren Salazar of New Belgium Brewing, who spoke  Friday in Denver at the National Homebrewers Conference. (That&#8217;s her on the right, during a mock judging last year in Seattle, staged for the shooting of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realbeer.com\/blog\/?p=473\">American Brew<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>Things I learned I would have added to the <a href=\"http:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/aromas-culture-and-sorting-out-what-we-taste\/\">earlier discussion here<\/a> about the mysteries of how (and how we might measure what) we smell and taste:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; To those scientific types who argue that senses of sight, touch and hearing are concrete and smelling and tasting are not her answer is simple. &#8220;Yes they are,&#8221; she said. &#8220;Seeing is not believing. Smelling and tasting is where it&#8217;s at.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;  There a second &#8220;flavor&#8221; wheel (I put the quotation marks around <em>flavor<\/em> because we&#8217;re really talking flavor and aroma), this one just for byproducts of oxidation. If you&#8217;re sitting on a tasting panel at New Belgium and call out a beer for being oxidized you can&#8217;t stop there &#8211; you have to be more specific. This goes to quality control, and more about that in a few paragraphs.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; She presented four samples of Fat Tire dosed with chemicals that reproduce flavors such as acetaldehyde (green apples) and diacetyl (butterscotch; buttered popcorn at higher levels). Although we often cite these as off flavors when judging beer (there are even boxes to check on a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bjcp.org\/BeerScoreSheet-Form.pdf\">BJCP scoresheet<\/a>) they aren&#8217;t inappropriate in every beer.<\/p>\n<p>A bit of green apple in Budweiser is part of its flavor profile. Hints, heck more than hints, of butterscotch make British ales taste like British ales.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Diacetyl is one of the first words you learn (in judging beer),&#8221; Salazar said. &#8220;We are American brewers. We are paid to hate diacetyl. You know how much British brewers hate us for that?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>When I posted the flavor wheel last week, Jonathan wrote that the majority of the descriptors on the wheel don&#8217;t describe particularly pleasant flavors. Yep. And I think figuring out how to keep the good ones in and the bad ones out &#8211; sometimes in beer that is going to be shipped across the country and maybe mishandled along the way &#8211; is a craft.<\/p>\n<p>During the lengthy discussions of &#8220;what is craft beer?&#8221; (<a href=\"http:\/\/lewbryson.blogspot.com\/2007\/06\/b-beach-bum-blonde-ale.html\">start here<\/a>) I&#8217;ve seen it suggested that Sierra Nevada Brewing and Stone Brewing <em>were<\/em> craft but no longer are because they grew into production breweries.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s poppycock. Both Sierra Nevada and New Belgium have new state-of-the-art bottling lines that will take your breath away, but we&#8217;re back to the early question: Is the Big Foot (or Mothership Wit) in the glass any different because it passed through a technically superior bottling line?<\/p>\n<p>Salazar and her husband, Eric, oversee the New Belgium barrel program. La Foile is essentially hand bottled. That beer is something we expect from a great brewery. <\/p>\n<p>Salazar also administers a quite sophisticated quality analysis program at New Belgium, with 24 tasters sitting on her in-house panels. A couple of months ago at the <em>Craft<\/em> (my italics) Brewers Conference Matt Gilliland of New Belgium talked about &#8220;Total Oxidation: Exposure and Increased Flavor Stability.&#8221;\u009d  One measure of success is that after beer changes hands several times over the course a few weeks in the distribution system it is still &#8220;true to brand&#8221; in the glass.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s something else we expect from a great brewery.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Before we get to the Slate three-part series on sensory perception and wine a few words of wit and wisdom on that topic from Lauren Salazar of New Belgium Brewing, who spoke Friday in Denver at the National Homebrewers Conference. (That&#8217;s her on the right, during a mock judging last year in Seattle, staged for &#8230; <a title=\"There&#8217;s more than flavor in a flavor wheel\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/theres-more-than-flavor-in-a-flavor-wheel\/\" aria-label=\"More on There&#8217;s more than flavor in a flavor wheel\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[292],"tags":[410,308],"class_list":["post-246","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-musing","tag-lauren-salazar","tag-new-belgium"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4wTn-3Y","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/246","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=246"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/246\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10032,"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/246\/revisions\/10032"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=246"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=246"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/appellationbeer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=246"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}