Comments on: The real enemy of better beer? Please vote http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:38:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Peter French http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-174454 Peter French Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:19:25 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/#comment-174454 Badly made, which for me includes bad recipes. Like roasted malt or smoked malt that just doesn't fit. But since you mentioned it also includes bad use of hops. That's usally too much, and sometimes the wrong varieties. Badly made, which for me includes bad recipes. Like roasted malt or smoked malt that just doesn’t fit. But since you mentioned it also includes bad use of hops. That’s usally too much, and sometimes the wrong varieties.

]]> By: Stan Hieronymus http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-174228 Stan Hieronymus Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:59:27 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/#comment-174228 Lew - Correct that boring is in the eye of the beholder. I'm immersed in Czech lagers right now (not actually immersed although I do like the image) and many would call them "the same" or boring. Badly made to me means badly executed, flawed to the point they no longer represent the brewer's intent. So more badly brewed and/or badly packaged than badly formulated. Not that I'm mounting any sort of defense for out-of-balance hoppy beers. Lew – Correct that boring is in the eye of the beholder. I’m immersed in Czech lagers right now (not actually immersed although I do like the image) and many would call them “the same” or boring.

Badly made to me means badly executed, flawed to the point they no longer represent the brewer’s intent. So more badly brewed and/or badly packaged than badly formulated. Not that I’m mounting any sort of defense for out-of-balance hoppy beers.

]]> By: Lew Bryson http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-173486 Lew Bryson Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:42:12 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/#comment-173486 Depends, Stan: "boring" to whom? Boring's too subjective. So I guess it doesn't depend after all: badly made beers. No, wait: what do you mean by that? Badly formulated beers? Badly brewed beers? Badly packaged beers? I'm so confused. Depends, Stan: “boring” to whom? Boring’s too subjective.

So I guess it doesn’t depend after all: badly made beers. No, wait: what do you mean by that? Badly formulated beers? Badly brewed beers? Badly packaged beers?

I’m so confused.

]]> By: sam http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-172939 sam Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:52:41 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/#comment-172939 The enemy is boring beer. If a beer is badly made there might still be something worth considering. A boring beer has no soul. Your thing, right? The enemy is boring beer. If a beer is badly made there might still be something worth considering. A boring beer has no soul. Your thing, right?

]]> By: SteveH http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-172845 SteveH Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:00:15 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/#comment-172845 I'll vote for badly made beers, even though I've recently run into a few yawners that disappointed me, I'd still say I'd upend a poorly made (and bad tasting) brew before a bland one. Then again, can't a boring beer be the result of poor brewing practices? I’ll vote for badly made beers, even though I’ve recently run into a few yawners that disappointed me, I’d still say I’d upend a poorly made (and bad tasting) brew before a bland one.

Then again, can’t a boring beer be the result of poor brewing practices?

]]> By: Mario (Brewed For Thought) http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-172763 Mario (Brewed For Thought) Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:57:35 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/#comment-172763 Badly made beers with large advertising budgets. What the hell is drinkability? There's so much of it in some beers you can hardy taste the cold. Badly made beers with large advertising budgets. What the hell is drinkability? There’s so much of it in some beers you can hardy taste the cold.

]]> By: Thomas http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-172743 Thomas Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:34:54 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/#comment-172743 Badly made beers, that turned more people off from craft brew in the 1990s and we still fight it often. Badly made beers, that turned more people off from craft brew in the 1990s and we still fight it often.

]]> By: Alan http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-172696 Alan Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:45:15 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/#comment-172696 I pick neither. The real enemy of better beer is excellent beer! Once you have gone Belgian, how can the rest of the craft world compete? But I submit to your demand for picking one or the other, I say badly made beers. Boring beers have their place when the beer is not at the forefront. I am not missing Trappist beers at ballgames. I pick neither. The real enemy of better beer is excellent beer! Once you have gone Belgian, how can the rest of the craft world compete?

But I submit to your demand for picking one or the other, I say badly made beers. Boring beers have their place when the beer is not at the forefront. I am not missing Trappist beers at ballgames.

]]> By: Mike Ring http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-172621 Mike Ring Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:03:48 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/#comment-172621 I'd have to agree with Beckel. How many have made beers that just did not turn out as expected and were boring? Granted, poorly made can cover a number of aspects, but generally the connotation is that it was made without any care or thought and just thrown together to bring a product to market. I would much rather try a beer that ended up boring by failure of planning or execution than one that had no thought put into it. I’d have to agree with Beckel. How many have made beers that just did not turn out as expected and were boring? Granted, poorly made can cover a number of aspects, but generally the connotation is that it was made without any care or thought and just thrown together to bring a product to market. I would much rather try a beer that ended up boring by failure of planning or execution than one that had no thought put into it.

]]> By: Beckel http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-172606 Beckel Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:58:06 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/the-real-enemy-of-better-beer-please-vote/#comment-172606 Ordering beers I have never had is something that always brings me great joy. Though as you say you run the risk of finding simply bad as well as boring beers, I always delight in trying something new, even if it isn't great, perhaps it will have some flavors I have never experienced or rarely see. To answer your question I would say poorly made beers are the real enemy. If a brewer isn't going to put love into their product than what is the point? Though I am certainly no fan of dull beers, I would much rather consume a brew that was created with dignity than a piss brew that is made with no heart. Ordering beers I have never had is something that always brings me great joy. Though as you say you run the risk of finding simply bad as well as boring beers, I always delight in trying something new, even if it isn’t great, perhaps it will have some flavors I have never experienced or rarely see. To answer your question I would say poorly made beers are the real enemy. If a brewer isn’t going to put love into their product than what is the point? Though I am certainly no fan of dull beers, I would much rather consume a brew that was created with dignity than a piss brew that is made with no heart.

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