Comments on: Other historic beers on my wish list http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/ Tue, 22 May 2012 16:56:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: JOHN B http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-748280 JOHN B Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:14:08 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/#comment-748280 I found 2 full bottles of Cartwright in a antique store in LaGrande the days ago. They looked cloudy-hazy..........If you look hard enough u might still find Cartwright beer just waiting to be found.... I found 2 full bottles of Cartwright in a antique store in LaGrande the days
ago. They looked cloudy-hazy……….If you look hard enough u might still find Cartwright beer just waiting to be found….

]]> By: Emo http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-116878 Emo Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:59:11 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/#comment-116878 I have a Cartwright Portland Beer poster (18x24) and a coaster. They have been in a closet since the 80's and could use a better home. The condition of both is good, but not mint. The full bottles from that era are long gone. I have a Cartwright Portland Beer poster (18×24) and a coaster. They have been in a closet since the 80′s and could use a better home. The condition of both is good, but not mint. The full bottles from that era are long gone.

]]> By: Jeff Alworth http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-29908 Jeff Alworth Mon, 28 May 2007 03:45:29 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/#comment-29908 What people thought was "too pungent" in 1979 may not give the best sense of what they think now. For example, for a period in the 90s, Full Sail had to battle perceptions that they were selling out and dumbing down their amber, which was the first assertive beer many Oregonians ever tasted. But it wasn't assertive in an absolute sense. By the late 90s, beers regularly featured more than 50 IBUs (and were considered mainstream). Full Sail Amber hadn't changed--palates had. Still, but all accounts, Cartright's pungency did not arise from agressive, creative brewing, but other, less intentional brewing practices. I doubt Don would sell me his bottle, but if he did, it would have extra groovy historical significance. What people thought was “too pungent” in 1979 may not give the best sense of what they think now. For example, for a period in the 90s, Full Sail had to battle perceptions that they were selling out and dumbing down their amber, which was the first assertive beer many Oregonians ever tasted. But it wasn’t assertive in an absolute sense. By the late 90s, beers regularly featured more than 50 IBUs (and were considered mainstream). Full Sail Amber hadn’t changed–palates had.

Still, but all accounts, Cartright’s pungency did not arise from agressive, creative brewing, but other, less intentional brewing practices. I doubt Don would sell me his bottle, but if he did, it would have extra groovy historical significance.

]]> By: SteveH http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-29525 SteveH Fri, 25 May 2007 17:13:33 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/#comment-29525 <i>"I wonder if he was trying to alert lager drinkers to the something different in the flavor, a fruitiness (ester driven)."</i> That was my thought too. I guess the crossover of wine tasting notes and beer tasting hadn't started in 1979. I was drinking Oly and Stroh's. :-P “I wonder if he was trying to alert lager drinkers to the something different in the flavor, a fruitiness (ester driven).”

That was my thought too. I guess the crossover of wine tasting notes and beer tasting hadn’t started in 1979. I was drinking Oly and Stroh’s. :-P

]]> By: SteveH http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-29524 SteveH Fri, 25 May 2007 17:10:49 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/#comment-29524 <i>"...remember the difference between 1915 and now."</i> What's that? That false advertising as a phrase hadn't yet been invented? ;-) Then again...you gotta wonder how "A true Pilsner beer" flies! “…remember the difference between 1915 and now.”

What’s that? That false advertising as a phrase hadn’t yet been invented? ;-)

Then again…you gotta wonder how “A true Pilsner beer” flies!

]]> By: Stan Hieronymus http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-29522 Stan Hieronymus Fri, 25 May 2007 16:27:44 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/#comment-29522 On Shiner/Spoetzl, remember the difference between 1915 and now. Kosmo Spoetzl was not brewing to style, amber or otherwise. I'm looking foward to when it reaches out market. I'm not a fan of all of Shiner's beers, but some or pretty good and it's certainly a brewery that is about "place." On Shiner/Spoetzl, remember the difference between 1915 and now.

Kosmo Spoetzl was not brewing to style, amber or otherwise.

I’m looking foward to when it reaches out market. I’m not a fan of all of Shiner’s beers, but some or pretty good and it’s certainly a brewery that is about “place.”

]]> By: Stan Hieronymus http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-29521 Stan Hieronymus Fri, 25 May 2007 16:22:10 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/#comment-29521 On James Robertson and Cartwright I wish Jim were still around to ask about that. I wonder if he was trying to alert lager drinkers to the something different in the flavor, a fruitiness (ester driven). Or by "sweet" does he mean syrupy and underattenuated? On James Robertson and Cartwright I wish Jim were still around to ask about that. I wonder if he was trying to alert lager drinkers to the something different in the flavor, a fruitiness (ester driven).

Or by “sweet” does he mean syrupy and underattenuated?

]]> By: SteveH http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-29508 SteveH Fri, 25 May 2007 14:10:51 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/#comment-29508 Bavarian Style Amber Lager? What's the remaining 80% of the grain bill? Hopefully not corn grits. And...dry-hopping a lager? All very interesting since the only "amber lager" in a "Bavarian style" is Oktoberfest, and it's not supposed to be light in body or hoppy in aroma or flavor. Sort of negates the style designation. Bavarian Style Amber Lager? What’s the remaining 80% of the grain bill? Hopefully not corn grits. And…dry-hopping a lager?

All very interesting since the only “amber lager” in a “Bavarian style” is Oktoberfest, and it’s not supposed to be light in body or hoppy in aroma or flavor. Sort of negates the style designation.

]]> By: Bill Westinghouse http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-29505 Bill Westinghouse Fri, 25 May 2007 13:44:13 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/#comment-29505 Shiner has a new beer out just this week called Shiner 98 (it's their 98th year breweing beer). It's labeled a Bavarian-style amber lager and is supposed to come pretty close to Kosmo Spoetzl's old recipe. According to the brewmaster, he uses 20% Munich malt, plus they use two types of imported Bavarian Hallertau hops, one in the kettle and another for dry hopping, just like they used to do. Shiner has a new beer out just this week called Shiner 98 (it’s their 98th year breweing beer). It’s labeled a Bavarian-style amber lager and is supposed to come pretty close to Kosmo Spoetzl’s old recipe. According to the brewmaster, he uses 20% Munich malt, plus they use two types of imported Bavarian Hallertau hops, one in the kettle and another for dry hopping, just like they used to do.

]]> By: SteveH http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-29501 SteveH Fri, 25 May 2007 12:18:19 +0000 http://appellationbeer.com/blog/other-historic-beers-on-my-wish-list/#comment-29501 I wonder how he defines "sweet ale taste?" Do you suppose that would be what we call ester-filled these days? I wonder how he defines “sweet ale taste?” Do you suppose that would be what we call ester-filled these days?

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