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	<title>Comments on: New Beer Rule #7: Beer is not the new wine</title>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting beer, I will have to check it out. I&#039;m a fan of Dogfish head, both the 120 IPA and 90 min. They may be a bit much for the novice IPA drinker, but sweet lord I absolutely love it. I must  recommend it to anyone that hasn&#039;t tried it yet. 

Are you a fan of Stone Arrogant Bastard by the way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting beer, I will have to check it out. I&#8217;m a fan of Dogfish head, both the 120 IPA and 90 min. They may be a bit much for the novice IPA drinker, but sweet lord I absolutely love it. I must  recommend it to anyone that hasn&#8217;t tried it yet. </p>
<p>Are you a fan of Stone Arrogant Bastard by the way?</p>
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		<title>By: Gail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. I hate when we get defensive with these beer/wine comparisons.   Beer lovers should be confident enough to respect both. Wine is not better or worse, it too contains multitudes of experiences too. It&#039;s OK to like either or educate your palate to appreciate both. Recently I heard a sophisticated beer drinker describe a beer flavor as sherry-like then note proudly that he&#039;s never tasted any sherry because he doesn&#039;t do wine. 

At some point that gets silly.  Lets be beer lovers, not wine haters or wine wannabees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. I hate when we get defensive with these beer/wine comparisons.   Beer lovers should be confident enough to respect both. Wine is not better or worse, it too contains multitudes of experiences too. It&#8217;s OK to like either or educate your palate to appreciate both. Recently I heard a sophisticated beer drinker describe a beer flavor as sherry-like then note proudly that he&#8217;s never tasted any sherry because he doesn&#8217;t do wine. </p>
<p>At some point that gets silly.  Lets be beer lovers, not wine haters or wine wannabees.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, I think this is a bit about how and where the phrase gets used.  As an analytical term used to explain to a retailer what is going on in the beverage world, I&#039;d say that it serves a useful purpose.  But for that retailer--or worse a brewer--to say that to a consumer makes my stomach sour. 

Ultimately, I dislike any effort to elevate beer that compares it to wine. As the above comments confirm, beer has its own unique character and traits.  We should promote it by teaching people about those traits and helping them to develop a long-term interest in the things that only beer can offer. 

To bandy the phrase about is to embrace trendiness: those recruited under its banner will flee just as soon as they hear of the next beverage trend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, I think this is a bit about how and where the phrase gets used.  As an analytical term used to explain to a retailer what is going on in the beverage world, I&#8217;d say that it serves a useful purpose.  But for that retailer&#8211;or worse a brewer&#8211;to say that to a consumer makes my stomach sour. </p>
<p>Ultimately, I dislike any effort to elevate beer that compares it to wine. As the above comments confirm, beer has its own unique character and traits.  We should promote it by teaching people about those traits and helping them to develop a long-term interest in the things that only beer can offer. </p>
<p>To bandy the phrase about is to embrace trendiness: those recruited under its banner will flee just as soon as they hear of the next beverage trend.</p>
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		<title>By: leigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep, your right. Beer is beer. to say, seriously, &#039;Beer is the new wine&#039; - which some do, is shockingly patronising. And i have heard this on the tv, the radio, and read about it. Professionals, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep, your right. Beer is beer. to say, seriously, &#8216;Beer is the new wine&#8217; &#8211; which some do, is shockingly patronising. And i have heard this on the tv, the radio, and read about it. Professionals, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Trimmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Trimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 05:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of how silly all this &quot;beer is the new wine&quot; business may seem, I think it will probably yield one great result:

The next time I attend a retirement dinner at some stuffy, old-fashioned restaurant, I will probably be able to order a decent glass of beer.

It is ridiculous for a &quot;nice&quot; restaurant (defined by me as an eatery with white tablecloths) to have a decent wine list, but only offer macro-lager beers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of how silly all this &#8220;beer is the new wine&#8221; business may seem, I think it will probably yield one great result:</p>
<p>The next time I attend a retirement dinner at some stuffy, old-fashioned restaurant, I will probably be able to order a decent glass of beer.</p>
<p>It is ridiculous for a &#8220;nice&#8221; restaurant (defined by me as an eatery with white tablecloths) to have a decent wine list, but only offer macro-lager beers.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beer IS beer.  It is unpretentious, even if it is a Belgian-inspired ale aged in port barrels, inoculated with bret, &amp; served in a corked bottle, it is still beer.  So is best bitter. Beer is an option.  Granted beer is my personal favorite option, but that is only a conclusion reached after years of research.

If we as fans, brewers, and promoters of good beer keep comparing it to wine as if beer were was the younger brother of an overly successful sibling then beer will never come into its own.  Even if sometimes it does behave like that cousin you hope doesn&#039;t RSVP to your wedding.  Beer is great, beer belongs at the table, and BEER IS BEER!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beer IS beer.  It is unpretentious, even if it is a Belgian-inspired ale aged in port barrels, inoculated with bret, &amp; served in a corked bottle, it is still beer.  So is best bitter. Beer is an option.  Granted beer is my personal favorite option, but that is only a conclusion reached after years of research.</p>
<p>If we as fans, brewers, and promoters of good beer keep comparing it to wine as if beer were was the younger brother of an overly successful sibling then beer will never come into its own.  Even if sometimes it does behave like that cousin you hope doesn&#8217;t RSVP to your wedding.  Beer is great, beer belongs at the table, and BEER IS BEER!</p>
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		<title>By: Boak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The price thing is an interesting angle that I really hadn&#039;t thought about before I watched a wine appreciation programme, where I saw that some Californian producer could flog his normal stuff for 800 dollars (or more) a bottle.

Imagine that beer does get to be as &quot;accepted&quot; as wine, that all the people who devote so much time to understanding wines focus on beer and that all decent restaurants have decent beer lists.

The result?  Rare / difficult to produce beers start costing hundreds of pounds.  Perhaps we should all be grateful that the critical world ignores it.

In terms of matching though - there are some foods that you can&#039;t match with wine, and a few that you can&#039;t match with anything.  There are certainly beers that I would never try and match with food.  I don&#039;t feel like I&#039;m trying to &quot;validate&quot; beer by matching it with food - I just like beer and food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The price thing is an interesting angle that I really hadn&#8217;t thought about before I watched a wine appreciation programme, where I saw that some Californian producer could flog his normal stuff for 800 dollars (or more) a bottle.</p>
<p>Imagine that beer does get to be as &#8220;accepted&#8221; as wine, that all the people who devote so much time to understanding wines focus on beer and that all decent restaurants have decent beer lists.</p>
<p>The result?  Rare / difficult to produce beers start costing hundreds of pounds.  Perhaps we should all be grateful that the critical world ignores it.</p>
<p>In terms of matching though &#8211; there are some foods that you can&#8217;t match with wine, and a few that you can&#8217;t match with anything.  There are certainly beers that I would never try and match with food.  I don&#8217;t feel like I&#8217;m trying to &#8220;validate&#8221; beer by matching it with food &#8211; I just like beer and food.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan Hieronymus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan Hieronymus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

From a marketing standpoint, I agree.

But from a good sense standpoint I don&#039;t. 

I don&#039;t think beer needs &quot;validating&quot; this way. It&#039;s not only new variations that deserve respect but also &quot;traditional&quot; beers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>From a marketing standpoint, I agree.</p>
<p>But from a good sense standpoint I don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think beer needs &#8220;validating&#8221; this way. It&#8217;s not only new variations that deserve respect but also &#8220;traditional&#8221; beers.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Trimmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Trimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The phrase, &quot;Beer is the new wine,&quot; serves a few interesting purposes.

1. It makes beer geeks feel better about themselves by elevating a working-class beverage.

2. It will allow fancy restaurants to charge dear prices for that feeling.

Considering how hard it is to make it in the restaurant biz, and how some folks love to spend money for the thrill of it, I think this is a win-win situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phrase, &#8220;Beer is the new wine,&#8221; serves a few interesting purposes.</p>
<p>1. It makes beer geeks feel better about themselves by elevating a working-class beverage.</p>
<p>2. It will allow fancy restaurants to charge dear prices for that feeling.</p>
<p>Considering how hard it is to make it in the restaurant biz, and how some folks love to spend money for the thrill of it, I think this is a win-win situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan Hieronymus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan Hieronymus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan - The image is actually a matchup (from an auction on eBay) so that&#039;s the size of the image. You have just as much right to it as I ;&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan &#8211; The image is actually a matchup (from an auction on eBay) so that&#8217;s the size of the image. You have just as much right to it as I ;>)</p>
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