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	<title>Comments on: Monday morning musing: Genetics and auction madness</title>
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		<title>By: Stan Hieronymus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan Hieronymus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, Mark. 

An ongoing challenge - not just for beer but all agricultural products - is &lt;i&gt;how much&lt;/i&gt; science? Not easy to answer. But I think we&#039;ve proved in Oregon that you can breed &quot;good for us&quot; changes in hops without turning to genetic modification.

And then there is whole issue of turning cereal grains from annual plants to perennials. Again, advances being made in the west - in this case wheat, and through breeding rather than GMOs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Mark. </p>
<p>An ongoing challenge &#8211; not just for beer but all agricultural products &#8211; is <i>how much</i> science? Not easy to answer. But I think we&#8217;ve proved in Oregon that you can breed &#8220;good for us&#8221; changes in hops without turning to genetic modification.</p>
<p>And then there is whole issue of turning cereal grains from annual plants to perennials. Again, advances being made in the west &#8211; in this case wheat, and through breeding rather than GMOs.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Tichenor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Tichenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whew. When you wrote &quot;Frankenbeer,&quot; I thought you meant the beer from Franconia (Franken). I agree that Tucher Weizen is crap, and should probably be banned, but their Bajuvator Doppelbock is fantastic!

On topic: Without scientifically modifying ingredients, we wouldn&#039;t have lagers as we know them today. Carlsberg isolated the lager yeast in a classic example of Man Meddling Where He Was Not Meant To Tread.

On the flipside, and I know this sounds anti-progress), by modifying grain and hops to reduce the necessary volume and squeeze more Euros out of each crop, we create situations like the current hop shortage, where farms concentrate on smaller-scale production of high alpha hops. Gradually, fewer hops are grown per year, because the GMO stuff gives so much more profitable output per acre. Then, one bad harvest and BOOM! Suddenly the brewers are in turmoil and beer prices skyrocket.

That&#039;s my big worry, but I think it&#039;s proving legitimate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew. When you wrote &#8220;Frankenbeer,&#8221; I thought you meant the beer from Franconia (Franken). I agree that Tucher Weizen is crap, and should probably be banned, but their Bajuvator Doppelbock is fantastic!</p>
<p>On topic: Without scientifically modifying ingredients, we wouldn&#8217;t have lagers as we know them today. Carlsberg isolated the lager yeast in a classic example of Man Meddling Where He Was Not Meant To Tread.</p>
<p>On the flipside, and I know this sounds anti-progress), by modifying grain and hops to reduce the necessary volume and squeeze more Euros out of each crop, we create situations like the current hop shortage, where farms concentrate on smaller-scale production of high alpha hops. Gradually, fewer hops are grown per year, because the GMO stuff gives so much more profitable output per acre. Then, one bad harvest and BOOM! Suddenly the brewers are in turmoil and beer prices skyrocket.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my big worry, but I think it&#8217;s proving legitimate.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kunz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Kunz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this Ebay thing fascinating? I was just talking about this on my blog...it sure seems like great free press for these breweries, huh. It makes you think about the whole &quot;paying $20-30 a bottle&quot; thing doesn&#039;t it. Buyers setting ridiculously high prices for themselves. It&#039;s interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this Ebay thing fascinating? I was just talking about this on my blog&#8230;it sure seems like great free press for these breweries, huh. It makes you think about the whole &#8220;paying $20-30 a bottle&#8221; thing doesn&#8217;t it. Buyers setting ridiculously high prices for themselves. It&#8217;s interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeese, Stephen.  I was just thinking how much this reminded me of the days of $1,000 dollar hockey cards which can now be bought for a fraction of a fraction of that price - and, you know, I still have a pile of Eric Lindros rookie cards at a very reasonable price.  

I am just happy to see some of this bubble economics is going to charity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeese, Stephen.  I was just thinking how much this reminded me of the days of $1,000 dollar hockey cards which can now be bought for a fraction of a fraction of that price &#8211; and, you know, I still have a pile of Eric Lindros rookie cards at a very reasonable price.  </p>
<p>I am just happy to see some of this bubble economics is going to charity.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Beaumont</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Beaumont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More price stuff, Stan? Keep this up and I&#039;m going to have to take away your Alan-poking stick...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More price stuff, Stan? Keep this up and I&#8217;m going to have to take away your Alan-poking stick&#8230;</p>
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