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		<title>By: Rick Green</title>
		<link>http://appellationbeer.com/blog/italian-craft-beer-in-one-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-174851</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I must have lucked out getting a Demon Hunter from Birrificio Montegioco (www.birrificiomontegioco.com) at Bottleworks (www.bottleworks.com) on a visit to Seattle. B. United International is the import agent for this beer. People might be able to narrow the search by checking out their wholesaler locations: www.bunitedint.com/services/accounts/location/overview.php.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I must have lucked out getting a Demon Hunter from Birrificio Montegioco (www.birrificiomontegioco.com) at Bottleworks (www.bottleworks.com) on a visit to Seattle. B. United International is the import agent for this beer. People might be able to narrow the search by checking out their wholesaler locations: <a href="http://www.bunitedint.com/services/accounts/location/overview.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.bunitedint.com/services/accounts/location/overview.php</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Good Burp</title>
		<link>http://appellationbeer.com/blog/italian-craft-beer-in-one-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-173754</link>
		<dc:creator>Good Burp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post.  After spending the last 2 vacations in England and Germany, I am not as excited about Italy&#039;s beer selection.  This is exactly what I needed. Thank you.  Great blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post.  After spending the last 2 vacations in England and Germany, I am not as excited about Italy&#8217;s beer selection.  This is exactly what I needed. Thank you.  Great blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan Hieronymus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan Hieronymus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - If I hadn&#039;t already written too much about Italy I would have added a post about how you are a god at Ma Che Siete Venuti A Fa’.

While I was there so was a couple from the UK, repeat customers who first came because they read what you wrote in What&#039;s Brewing.

That announcement was followed by Manuele praising you, telling stories and eventually swearing me to secrecy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; If I hadn&#8217;t already written too much about Italy I would have added a post about how you are a god at Ma Che Siete Venuti A Fa’.</p>
<p>While I was there so was a couple from the UK, repeat customers who first came because they read what you wrote in What&#8217;s Brewing.</p>
<p>That announcement was followed by Manuele praising you, telling stories and eventually swearing me to secrecy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (Stonch)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff (Stonch)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been telling you all about this stuff for almost two years!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been telling you all about this stuff for almost two years!</p>
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		<title>By: e.s. delia</title>
		<link>http://appellationbeer.com/blog/italian-craft-beer-in-one-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-172000</link>
		<dc:creator>e.s. delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found it to be somewhat difficult tracking down good beer in Venice, and between sightseeing, eating amazing food, and taking it all in, scouring the city for craft beer kind of took a backseat. While the beer I&#039;ve tried from Italian microbrewers that&#039;s been shipped to the US has been for the most part excellent, the prices keep me cautious, especially as of late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found it to be somewhat difficult tracking down good beer in Venice, and between sightseeing, eating amazing food, and taking it all in, scouring the city for craft beer kind of took a backseat. While the beer I&#8217;ve tried from Italian microbrewers that&#8217;s been shipped to the US has been for the most part excellent, the prices keep me cautious, especially as of late.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan Hieronymus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan Hieronymus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy - A fair point. As I wrote, Italian small brewers are paying a chunk more for ingredients (they have just formed a buying co-op), and distribution costs are also high. It costs Birra del Borgo more to get its beer into Rome (70 km) than to ship it north. And once you get any size at all you have to have a full- or part-time person to deal with Italian bureaucracy.

That said, we saw 33cl bottles for 2.80E to 3.50E in stores (compared to a little more than 2E for Orval). Panil Barrique Sour is 5E for a 75cl at the brewery and most the Birra de Borgo beers are 5E at the brewery, around 6-7E in bottle shops and of course more in pubs.

I filed away my receipt from Birrificio Troll and am feeling lazy so I&#039;m rounding a bit on this part. There you can order different sizes (and those may also vary based on the strength of the beer). What would be comparably to a pint (so 14-16 ounces of an average beer, 10-12 of a strong one; and they have &lt;em&gt;strong&lt;/em&gt; ones) about 4E. Of course the Troll eases you pain with great food, some of it prepared with beer, that seems awfully cheap.

I could go on, but will simply add not cheap in Italy, but nearly what they are going for in the US. The strengthening of the dollar may help a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy &#8211; A fair point. As I wrote, Italian small brewers are paying a chunk more for ingredients (they have just formed a buying co-op), and distribution costs are also high. It costs Birra del Borgo more to get its beer into Rome (70 km) than to ship it north. And once you get any size at all you have to have a full- or part-time person to deal with Italian bureaucracy.</p>
<p>That said, we saw 33cl bottles for 2.80E to 3.50E in stores (compared to a little more than 2E for Orval). Panil Barrique Sour is 5E for a 75cl at the brewery and most the Birra de Borgo beers are 5E at the brewery, around 6-7E in bottle shops and of course more in pubs.</p>
<p>I filed away my receipt from Birrificio Troll and am feeling lazy so I&#8217;m rounding a bit on this part. There you can order different sizes (and those may also vary based on the strength of the beer). What would be comparably to a pint (so 14-16 ounces of an average beer, 10-12 of a strong one; and they have <em>strong</em> ones) about 4E. Of course the Troll eases you pain with great food, some of it prepared with beer, that seems awfully cheap.</p>
<p>I could go on, but will simply add not cheap in Italy, but nearly what they are going for in the US. The strengthening of the dollar may help a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan Hieronymus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan Hieronymus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knut,

Not sure what you have for Rome, but these two are good stores:
Off License, via Veio 4
Bir&amp;Fud Bottega, via Luca Valerio 41 (Bir&amp;Fud being the restaurant that specializes in Italian craft beers)

I should have mentioned that we saw a few places in Parma (and a cafe with Schneider Weiss on tap). The places that I was surprised hadn&#039;t caught up were Florence and Venice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knut,</p>
<p>Not sure what you have for Rome, but these two are good stores:<br />
Off License, via Veio 4<br />
Bir&#038;Fud Bottega, via Luca Valerio 41 (Bir&#038;Fud being the restaurant that specializes in Italian craft beers)</p>
<p>I should have mentioned that we saw a few places in Parma (and a cafe with Schneider Weiss on tap). The places that I was surprised hadn&#8217;t caught up were Florence and Venice.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Crouch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Crouch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now whether you can actually afford to buy any of the Italian imports is another story...How are the local prices for craft beer in Italy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now whether you can actually afford to buy any of the Italian imports is another story&#8230;How are the local prices for craft beer in Italy?</p>
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		<title>By: Knut Albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knut Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Beer Distributors in NYC has a fine selection of Italian beers.

A problem with Italy is that small scale food, be it cheese, wine, beer or whatever, tend to be distributed in the region and sold directly from the producer or through small shops and restaurants. I go to (Northern) Italy fairly often, and I have to e-mail the breweries to find what I want.

The best bet is to visit specialist beer stores. I&#039;ve found them in Parma, Milan and Bologna and I know of one in Rome, but I&#039;m sure there are others. Google and babelfish are good tools.
(More on the Italian beer scene on my blog)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Beer Distributors in NYC has a fine selection of Italian beers.</p>
<p>A problem with Italy is that small scale food, be it cheese, wine, beer or whatever, tend to be distributed in the region and sold directly from the producer or through small shops and restaurants. I go to (Northern) Italy fairly often, and I have to e-mail the breweries to find what I want.</p>
<p>The best bet is to visit specialist beer stores. I&#8217;ve found them in Parma, Milan and Bologna and I know of one in Rome, but I&#8217;m sure there are others. Google and babelfish are good tools.<br />
(More on the Italian beer scene on my blog)</p>
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