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		<title>By: Ray Daniels</title>
		<link>http://appellationbeer.com/blog/input-requested-whats-this-beer-word-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-290342</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan, 

Problem is that there are a lot of phenolic compounds and many occur in beer with fairly pleasant effects. Examples include the clove of weizen and the peat smoke flavors of some Scotch/Scottish ales. 

But for me the word &quot;phenol&quot; means another specific flavor that is altogether different: it has a solventy, minerally trait (also bandaids, disinfectant) that can certainly be harsh when present in excess as it might be in a beer infected with wild yeast. But a touch of even this harsh form of phenol can be a pleasant thing in something like a Belgian strong ale. 

That&#039;s my take. 

Cheers, 

Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan, </p>
<p>Problem is that there are a lot of phenolic compounds and many occur in beer with fairly pleasant effects. Examples include the clove of weizen and the peat smoke flavors of some Scotch/Scottish ales. </p>
<p>But for me the word &#8220;phenol&#8221; means another specific flavor that is altogether different: it has a solventy, minerally trait (also bandaids, disinfectant) that can certainly be harsh when present in excess as it might be in a beer infected with wild yeast. But a touch of even this harsh form of phenol can be a pleasant thing in something like a Belgian strong ale. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s my take. </p>
<p>Cheers, </p>
<p>Ray</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I immediately think of good and bad phenols. I think good phenols are cloves and bananas of a nice Heffe or a Belgian with some other harder to identify aromatics tossed in. 

I think of bad phenols as a band-aid medicine smell, like my elementary school nurse&#039;s office; a place I spent too much time in. That conjures up a variety of other smells too, like iodine and cotton balls, but I try to repress these. I remember her fondly, so those smells might not as unpleasant for me as other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I immediately think of good and bad phenols. I think good phenols are cloves and bananas of a nice Heffe or a Belgian with some other harder to identify aromatics tossed in. </p>
<p>I think of bad phenols as a band-aid medicine smell, like my elementary school nurse&#8217;s office; a place I spent too much time in. That conjures up a variety of other smells too, like iodine and cotton balls, but I try to repress these. I remember her fondly, so those smells might not as unpleasant for me as other people.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Stange</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Stange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think of it as necessarily an off-flavor. The clovey ones can be nice. It&#039;s the medicinal and band-aid ones that are nasty. Like when you chew on gum for way too long. Ick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think of it as necessarily an off-flavor. The clovey ones can be nice. It&#8217;s the medicinal and band-aid ones that are nasty. Like when you chew on gum for way too long. Ick.</p>
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		<title>By: Abby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pepper, clove, spicy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pepper, clove, spicy.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think funkiness/yeast by-products--maybe floral or Belgian in nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think funkiness/yeast by-products&#8211;maybe floral or Belgian in nature.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>light medicinal but natural flavors or medicinal alcohol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>light medicinal but natural flavors or medicinal alcohol</p>
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		<title>By: kevin m</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I generally usually use that term to describe a bite and/or aroma presence that is not fruity, smokey, nutty, floral (usually leaving - medicinal, plasticky, herbal)

Of course, I first came across the word after I brewed my first batch of beer with heavily chlorinated water, when trying to figure out why it tasted the way it did (in a bad way.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally usually use that term to describe a bite and/or aroma presence that is not fruity, smokey, nutty, floral (usually leaving &#8211; medicinal, plasticky, herbal)</p>
<p>Of course, I first came across the word after I brewed my first batch of beer with heavily chlorinated water, when trying to figure out why it tasted the way it did (in a bad way.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phenolic means plastic to me. In the paint industry roller covers have phenolic cores that make them solvent resistant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phenolic means plastic to me. In the paint industry roller covers have phenolic cores that make them solvent resistant.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a medicinal odor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a medicinal odor</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phenolic is an off flavor that has to do with band-aids, packing tape, and maybe copper coins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phenolic is an off flavor that has to do with band-aids, packing tape, and maybe copper coins.</p>
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