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		<title>By: Darren M</title>
		<link>http://appellationbeer.com/blog/are-beer-drinkers-really-trading-down/comment-page-1/#comment-121603</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 13:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found myself picking up a 12 pack of Miller HL just the other day. At six bucks for a 12-pack, how could I pass it up.  By far, not one of my standard brews, but it&#039;s a decent lawnmower beer which comes with a bit of American nostalgia.   However, that may have been my last Miller product for a while. 

Luckily, I work as the chef/steward of a small yacht club is SC where I do all of the ordering of food and beverage.  In SC most of the wine purveyors also carry a number of premium imports and micros.   I&#039;ve figured that I can get a free 6-pack by buying from the purvey as opposed to what the retailers charge.  Still, I&#039;ve found myself recently purchasing a lower priced Weisse rather than Maisel&#039;s.   

The side effect of this is that many home brewers are realizing the cost savings of brewing their own.  I&#039;ve standardized one or two of my favorite and easy to brew recipes so that I&#039;ll always have a surplus in the garage.  It has also stimulated me to learn more about yeast culturing and reusing the yeast cake for several batches.  Would this be considered Victory Brewing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found myself picking up a 12 pack of Miller HL just the other day. At six bucks for a 12-pack, how could I pass it up.  By far, not one of my standard brews, but it&#8217;s a decent lawnmower beer which comes with a bit of American nostalgia.   However, that may have been my last Miller product for a while. </p>
<p>Luckily, I work as the chef/steward of a small yacht club is SC where I do all of the ordering of food and beverage.  In SC most of the wine purveyors also carry a number of premium imports and micros.   I&#8217;ve figured that I can get a free 6-pack by buying from the purvey as opposed to what the retailers charge.  Still, I&#8217;ve found myself recently purchasing a lower priced Weisse rather than Maisel&#8217;s.   </p>
<p>The side effect of this is that many home brewers are realizing the cost savings of brewing their own.  I&#8217;ve standardized one or two of my favorite and easy to brew recipes so that I&#8217;ll always have a surplus in the garage.  It has also stimulated me to learn more about yeast culturing and reusing the yeast cake for several batches.  Would this be considered Victory Brewing?</p>
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		<title>By: Chipper Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chipper Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally speaking, despite the higher cost of beer these days, I&#039;m actually increasing the number of beer purchases of craft beer.  I wouldn&#039;t think of trading down.  One thing that can help is a friendly neighborhood liquor store who offers discounts to loyal customers.  Getting a discount certainly helps offset the higher costs these days.  But trade down?  Wouldn&#039;t think of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally speaking, despite the higher cost of beer these days, I&#8217;m actually increasing the number of beer purchases of craft beer.  I wouldn&#8217;t think of trading down.  One thing that can help is a friendly neighborhood liquor store who offers discounts to loyal customers.  Getting a discount certainly helps offset the higher costs these days.  But trade down?  Wouldn&#8217;t think of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather drink less beer than drink crap.  Also it&#039;s possible to cut back on non-essentials like food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather drink less beer than drink crap.  Also it&#8217;s possible to cut back on non-essentials like food.</p>
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		<title>By: Daron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I&#039;ve been buying the more affordable (local) stuff for a while now atleast a year. Although after a couple weeks on the creamale, I do usually take a step up to a affordable local microbrew for a break - Southern Tier Brewing or my latest favorite Ithaca Brewing Co. .... I will never buy Milwaukee Beast or any others from the Big 3 (soon to be 2?). I also cannot ever imagine paying $70 for a case of microbrew (dogfish) although I do love their beers, even if I had the money and yes I realize more/better ingredients, higher supply cost means price increases but it just seems a little excessive.. My cutoff for a good case of microbrew is around $30-$35. Although during holidays or if I have some extra cash I may plunk down a little more, but that&#039;s only once or twice a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I&#8217;ve been buying the more affordable (local) stuff for a while now atleast a year. Although after a couple weeks on the creamale, I do usually take a step up to a affordable local microbrew for a break &#8211; Southern Tier Brewing or my latest favorite Ithaca Brewing Co. &#8230;. I will never buy Milwaukee Beast or any others from the Big 3 (soon to be 2?). I also cannot ever imagine paying $70 for a case of microbrew (dogfish) although I do love their beers, even if I had the money and yes I realize more/better ingredients, higher supply cost means price increases but it just seems a little excessive.. My cutoff for a good case of microbrew is around $30-$35. Although during holidays or if I have some extra cash I may plunk down a little more, but that&#8217;s only once or twice a year.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveH</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;…but speaking for myself I have lately been buying 12-packs and cases of beers at the local grocery store at cheaper prices.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Same here, along with some 12 pack imports from places that always offer good deals.  But I doubt I&#039;ll be looking at Milwaukee&#039;s Best anytime soon.

Going to a tavern is becoming more of luxury any more too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;…but speaking for myself I have lately been buying 12-packs and cases of beers at the local grocery store at cheaper prices.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Same here, along with some 12 pack imports from places that always offer good deals.  But I doubt I&#8217;ll be looking at Milwaukee&#8217;s Best anytime soon.</p>
<p>Going to a tavern is becoming more of luxury any more too.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is a discussion about drinkers already wed to industrial lagers moving from one price level to another.&quot;

If totally true then the quote about a shift from &quot;higher-priced, premium beers and economy beers...&quot; is total BS.

Shifting from higher-priced, premium CRAFT beers to cheaper alternatives? Maybe not totally...but speaking for myself I have lately been buying 12-packs and cases of beers at the local grocery store at cheaper prices. Brands such as Redhook, Long Trail, JW Dundees, etc.. But not a total shift mind you. More of a supplement to save $ while still dropping wads on beers like Captain Lawrence, Southampton, Russian River, etc..

Find a quote about &quot;tough times&quot; from a famous Rush song and live by that. 

In the end, stay true and steadfast by your local brewers. Pricing be damned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is a discussion about drinkers already wed to industrial lagers moving from one price level to another.&#8221;</p>
<p>If totally true then the quote about a shift from &#8220;higher-priced, premium beers and economy beers&#8230;&#8221; is total BS.</p>
<p>Shifting from higher-priced, premium CRAFT beers to cheaper alternatives? Maybe not totally&#8230;but speaking for myself I have lately been buying 12-packs and cases of beers at the local grocery store at cheaper prices. Brands such as Redhook, Long Trail, JW Dundees, etc.. But not a total shift mind you. More of a supplement to save $ while still dropping wads on beers like Captain Lawrence, Southampton, Russian River, etc..</p>
<p>Find a quote about &#8220;tough times&#8221; from a famous Rush song and live by that. </p>
<p>In the end, stay true and steadfast by your local brewers. Pricing be damned.</p>
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		<title>By: Mario (Brewed For Thought)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mario (Brewed For Thought)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this points to higher levels of alcoholism due to economic stress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this points to higher levels of alcoholism due to economic stress.</p>
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