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		<title>By: SteveH</title>
		<link>http://appellationbeer.com/blog/and-now-imperial-hefeweizen/comment-page-1/#comment-45440</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan - my mistake, someone else pointed out the Southern Tier brew at BA.

But the IDIPA made me LOL!  Can&#039;t say as I&#039;ve seen that.  Yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan &#8211; my mistake, someone else pointed out the Southern Tier brew at BA.</p>
<p>But the IDIPA made me LOL!  Can&#8217;t say as I&#8217;ve seen that.  Yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SteveH: I don&#039;t know that I posted on BA but I sure love when I get to be 21% as clever as the next guy(s).  You would think I would get used to it..but no...;-)

As for the utility of &quot;imperial&quot; I thought I saw the height of absurdity with a IIPA until I thought I saw a IDIPA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SteveH: I don&#8217;t know that I posted on BA but I sure love when I get to be 21% as clever as the next guy(s).  You would think I would get used to it..but no&#8230;;-)</p>
<p>As for the utility of &#8220;imperial&#8221; I thought I saw the height of absurdity with a IIPA until I thought I saw a IDIPA.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan, I actually jokingly posted about such a brewery on BA a few years back. Hook...line...and sinker to boot.

I think I called them Imperialistic Brewing Co. from Overthetop, OR.

Damn...I should&#039;ve TM&#039;d the name then!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan, I actually jokingly posted about such a brewery on BA a few years back. Hook&#8230;line&#8230;and sinker to boot.</p>
<p>I think I called them Imperialistic Brewing Co. from Overthetop, OR.</p>
<p>Damn&#8230;I should&#8217;ve TM&#8217;d the name then!</p>
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		<title>By: Stan Hieronymus</title>
		<link>http://appellationbeer.com/blog/and-now-imperial-hefeweizen/comment-page-1/#comment-45397</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan Hieronymus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realbeer.com/blog/?p=592&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse&lt;/a&gt; might fit in there somewhere, although its brewers are way too sensible to use the Imperial monicker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.realbeer.com/blog/?p=592" rel="nofollow">Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse</a> might fit in there somewhere, although its brewers are way too sensible to use the Imperial monicker.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveH</title>
		<link>http://appellationbeer.com/blog/and-now-imperial-hefeweizen/comment-page-1/#comment-45394</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Herbsweizen, a filtered weissbierwith named after the owner/brewer, Neil Herbst.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Hmm, Herbst being the German word for Autumn, does this place the Herbsweizen in the Imperial, Autumn, Krystalweizen style?  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Herbsweizen, a filtered weissbierwith named after the owner/brewer, Neil Herbst.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Hmm, Herbst being the German word for Autumn, does this place the Herbsweizen in the Imperial, Autumn, Krystalweizen style?  <img src='http://appellationbeer.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SteveH</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I left the Weizeneisbock for you Stephen!  ;)

S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left the Weizeneisbock for you Stephen!  <img src='http://appellationbeer.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>S.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Beaumont</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Beaumont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn! Steve just outposted me with the weizen bock reference. Beat me by minutes, he did!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn! Steve just outposted me with the weizen bock reference. Beat me by minutes, he did!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Beaumont</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Beaumont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the idea of the Imperial Brewing Company, Stan. Someone tell Tom Baker, and quick!

But back to the new Pyramid brand, I&#039;m surprised that no one as yet has noted that so-called &quot;Imperial&quot; hefeweizen already does exist, and it&#039;s called weizen bock. (Which, I think our European friends should recognize, is in itself a stylistic conundrum, combining as it does top and bottom fermented styles.) So one presumes that it&#039;s the hops that make this particular brand &quot;Imperial&quot;? That being the case, and returning to Josquin&#039;s comment, should it need to be an actual hefeweizen first?

Years ago, Mark Silva told me that he actually apologized to German brewers of hefeweizens for the mistreatment that certain U.S. brewers had inflicted upon the term. That pretty much sums up my views on the subject, but then again, I&#039;m Canadian.

(BTW, just OT, up in Edmonton, Alberta, the Alley Kat Brewing Company is making a Herbsweizen, a filtered weissbierwith named after the owner/brewer, Neil Herbst. It&#039;s one of the finest kristals I&#039;ve had the pleasure of tasting.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the idea of the Imperial Brewing Company, Stan. Someone tell Tom Baker, and quick!</p>
<p>But back to the new Pyramid brand, I&#8217;m surprised that no one as yet has noted that so-called &#8220;Imperial&#8221; hefeweizen already does exist, and it&#8217;s called weizen bock. (Which, I think our European friends should recognize, is in itself a stylistic conundrum, combining as it does top and bottom fermented styles.) So one presumes that it&#8217;s the hops that make this particular brand &#8220;Imperial&#8221;? That being the case, and returning to Josquin&#8217;s comment, should it need to be an actual hefeweizen first?</p>
<p>Years ago, Mark Silva told me that he actually apologized to German brewers of hefeweizens for the mistreatment that certain U.S. brewers had inflicted upon the term. That pretty much sums up my views on the subject, but then again, I&#8217;m Canadian.</p>
<p>(BTW, just OT, up in Edmonton, Alberta, the Alley Kat Brewing Company is making a Herbsweizen, a filtered weissbierwith named after the owner/brewer, Neil Herbst. It&#8217;s one of the finest kristals I&#8217;ve had the pleasure of tasting.)</p>
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		<title>By: SteveH</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Imperial-Stuff Oreo Cookies….&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Oooh, now we&#039;re on to something -- served as dessert paired with a nice Imperial Stout!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Imperial-Stuff Oreo Cookies….&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Oooh, now we&#8217;re on to something &#8212; served as dessert paired with a nice Imperial Stout!  <img src='http://appellationbeer.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SteveH</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Just because they use the term doesn’t mean it ends up being a style.

&quot;(I don’t consult them to decide if I like the beers I otherwise drink.)&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Truer words were never spoken.

To Alan in the first response, and I think I answered your same post at BA this way,  I thought Schneider had invented it first with Aventinus.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Just because they use the term doesn’t mean it ends up being a style.</p>
<p>&#8220;(I don’t consult them to decide if I like the beers I otherwise drink.)&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Truer words were never spoken.</p>
<p>To Alan in the first response, and I think I answered your same post at BA this way,  I thought Schneider had invented it first with Aventinus.  <img src='http://appellationbeer.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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